Explore the ThedaCare Internal Medicine Residency Program
We are thrilled you are taking the time to learn about our internal medicine residency program. We are accepting 15 residents per class to achieve a total program complement of 45. We invite you to start your exploration by hearing directly from our program leaders and faculty.
Our Mission
We seek to train multifaceted internists who expertly care for people across the continuum of patient acuity and who lead system-level changes that improve the health of communities in northeast and central Wisconsin and beyond.
Our Core Pillars
- Critical thinking. Deepen curiosity and disposition toward scientific inquiry.
- Ownership. Strive for high autonomy and lead change.
- Humanism. Approach work with humility and a commitment to inclusivity and justice.
- Flourishing. Seek harmony in personal and professional lives while also cultivating a unique identity as a physician.
Hear From the Experts
Discover how the ThedaCare Internal Medicine Residency Program prepares physicians to deliver exceptional, patient-centered care that empowers individuals to live healthier, more fulfilling lives.
Meet Paul Bergl, MD, Internal Medicine Residency Program Director
Hear from Our Faculty: What Differentiates the ThedaCare Internal Medicine residency Program
Application Process, Requirements and Contact Information
We will only review residency applications submitted through the AAMC ERAS system. Our program’s ERAS ID# is 1405600003.
Applications must be submitted through ERAS by October 15 for consideration for an interview. Incomplete applications may be rejected without follow-up; applicants are asked to ensure completion prior to ERAS submission. Attention to detail is a quintessential trait of a high-performing internist.
1. Graduation
All applicants must have graduated from accredited allopathic or osteopathic medical school in the United States or must have an equivalent degree from an international medical school (e.g. MBBS). We do not employ strict year of graduation (YOG) cut-offs in our application screening process but reserve the right to consider YOG in our holistic review.
2. USMLE
Applicants must have passed the USMLE Step 1 examination, and we strongly prefer applicants who have passed the USMLE Step 2 Clinical Knowledge (CK) examination.
We incorporate applicants’ results from USMLE examinations into our holistic review. However, we will consider applicants who did not pass Step 1 or 2 on their first attempt. Moreover, we do not use strict cut-offs for scores on the Step 2 CK examination to screen applicants.
International medical graduates (IMGs) who have already passed Step 3 are viewed more favorably than IMGs who have not.
3. Letters of Recommendation
We require that a medical student performance evaluation (MSPE or “Dean’s letter”) or equivalent document accompanies each application. Moreover, we require three (3) letters of recommendation, two of which must be written by an internal medicine specialist, subspecialist, or equivalent.
4. Personal Statement
While we require that a personal statement accompany each application, we do not require customized statements for our program. We appreciate honesty and promote transparency; as such, we favorably view personal statements that contextualize extensions of medical school graduation date, significant gaps in training, failed attempts on either USMLE examination, etc. Personal statements apparently written by a large language model are viewed most unfavorably.
5. International Medical Graduates
For international medical graduates (IMGs), certification by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG) is required. We will sponsor J-1 visas but are unable to accommodate H-1b visas. Additional details are found through our sponsoring institution’s website.
We will review the totality of the application before making our decisions to offer interviews. Further, all program faculty involved in ranking applicants are trained on and use the ACGME’s framework for holistic review.
Due to the sheer volume of applications received, our program strongly prioritizes reviewing applicants who signal.
- We offer interviews based on a combination of signal status and merits of the candidate.
- We review all applicants who signal gold prior reviewing those who signal silver. Applicants who do not signal are very unlikely to have their applications reviewed.
- Please note that signaling, even with a gold signal, does not guarantee an interview.
- We only use signaling for application review; we do not consider signaling in determining our final rank list.
When two applicants share similar accolades and potential for excellence within our program, we will tend to prefer applicants who have a geographical preference for our region.
We offer virtual interviews from October through early January of the recruitment season. We do not conduct in-person interviews.
We extend interview invitations on a rolling basis. All interview offers are guaranteed for at least 5 business days; applicants will not lose their interview offer to other applicants if they respond in a reasonable timeframe. However, out of respect for other applicants, we reserve the right to rescind the interview offer after 5 business days have lapsed.
We commit to using interview techniques that limit bias and noise in applicants’ rankings. All faculty conducting interviews have received training on mechanisms to maximize objectivity in our selection process.
We intend to offer optional second-look events in January or February after we have certified our rank list through the NRMP. These events may include both a virtual and in-person option. Participation in second-look events will have absolutely no bearing on rankings; we simply want to allow interested applicants the opportunity to meet our residents, see our facilities, and better understand our community before finalizing their own rank list.
Applicants who send pre-interview emails or other letters of interest will gain no advantage in securing an interview. Applicants should use ERAS to send application materials and to signal genuine preference for our program.
Similarly, applicants will not be ranked based on whether they send thank-you notes or initiate post-interview communication. An applicant’s stated intent to rank us highly will not influence our own ranking of the applicant.
We reserve the right to conduct post-interview communication with applicants, but we will never use such communication to coerce applicants nor to influence ranking decisions. Post-interview communication does not imply a decision to rank. Applicants are not expected to reciprocate with a response. The program adheres to all National Residency Matching Program (NRMP) policies regarding post-interview communications.
We consider applicants who have completed partial clinical training in another specialty through an Accreditation Council of Graduate Medical Education (ACGME)-accredited residency program or have completed internal medicine residency training outside of the United States.
Both types of applicants may be eligible for up to 12 months’ credit toward their internal medicine training in accordance with American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM) policies. Please note that program leadership can only petition the ABIM for such credit after three months’ observation on the job here and that such credit cannot be guaranteed.
Our program is committed to the highest standards of graduate medical education. We fully adhere to the NRMP Match agreement and the NRMP Code of Conduct, and we follow guidance set forth by the Alliance for Academic Internal Medicine (AAIM). All faculty, staff, and learners involved in recruitment and interview activities participate in mandatory annual training on these standards and complete an attestation of compliance each year.
We are committed to transparent and structured communication with applicants. As stated above, and in accordance with AAIM and NRMP guidelines, our program does not use post-interview visits (i.e. “second looks”) in determining applicant placement on our rank list.
Mechanisms for anonymous reporting of concerns are available through the Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals, our sponsoring institution.
Didactics and Curriculum
Our program’s four pillars inform our design of didactics and curriculum and approach toward clinical rotations.
- Critical thinking – Residents will deepen their curiosity and disposition toward scientific inquiry.
- Ownership – Residents will strive for high autonomy and lead change.
- Humanism – Residents will approach their work with humility and a commitment to inclusivity and justice.
- Flourishing – Residents will achieve harmony in their personal and professional lives while also cultivating their unique identity as a physician.
Overview
We operate on a 4+1 scheduling model. During the “4” weeks, residents complete 4-week inpatient rotations (e.g. hospital wards, ICU) or paired 2-week rotations (e.g. night float followed by emergency medicine; endocrinology followed by neurology, etc.). Vacation time typically occurs during the “4” blocks. On the “+1” weeks, residents have their continuity clinics and other ambulatory experiences.
We utilize a night float model to cover all critical inpatient service lines. Residents do not complete admission cycles longer than 12 hours.
Sample Schedule

Rotations
ThedaCare Regional Medical Center-Neenah operates as home base for the residency program. However, residents’ clinical experiences span the region – both to ensure comprehensiveness of training and to immerse residents in the communities we proudly serve.
- Inpatient Hospitalist/General Wards — Residents staff three inpatient primary services at our primary training site, ThedaCare Regional Medical Center-Neenah. Senior residents also rotate at ThedaCare Regional Medical Center-Appleton for exposure to our niche populations, such as our large cardiology service line.
- Outpatient Clinic — Residents have 5-6 half-days in their continuity clinic on “+1” weeks. Clinical sites are predominantly within ThedaCare’s on- and off-site clinics within Neenah and are staffed by a dedicated cadre of outpatient internists. The remainder of the “+1” week consist of other ambulatory clinics germane to the practice of internal medicine (e.g. medicine subspecialties, charitable care / free clinics, sports medicine, etc.) and protected time for scholarship.
- ICU — Residents rotate through ICUs at both of our regional medical centers. ThedaCare Regional Medical Center-Neenah is our stroke center and level 2 trauma center, and ThedaCare Regional Medical Center-Appleton is our cardiac care center. Rotations will be balanced to provide a broad exposure to critical care.
- Subspecialty Rotations — Residents complete at least two weeks of a dedicated rotation for each of the nine major subspecialties of internal medicine and their required neurology experience. These rotations occur during the “4” and not the “+1” part of the schedule to allow continuity with the subspecialty team(s). For primarily outpatient subspecialties, most experiences are in ambulatory settings. Residents will experience subspecialty care with both ThedaCare-employed physicians and our community partners in the Fox Cities.
- Emergency Medicine — Residents will work at our stroke and level 2 trauma center in Neenah, as well as at our busy and clinically diverse critical access emergency rooms (all within one hour of our primary site) for a total of four weeks in residency.
- Electives and Research — During these times, residents may opt for additional core or subspecialty clinical rotations, rotations outside of internal medicine specialties, time at our network of critical access hospitals, approved extramural rotations, research time, point-of-care ultrasound rotation, etc.
- POCUS Curriculum – The residency program has equipped each inpatient team and the continuity clinic with handheld ultrasounds. In addition, we run dedicated workshops and have built a self-paced, hands-on curriculum in all core internal medicine applications of POCUS. Program leadership provides expert-level review of resident-developed portfolios of examinations performed.
- Schedule Individualization — In accordance with the ACGME program requirements, residents will have at least 6 months of core clinical and non-clinical elective experiences tailored to their anticipated career plans.
We recognize the wealth of resources of medical knowledge now available to contemporary trainees. Thus, we seek to emphasize application of knowledge, sound clinical judgment and practical use cases in our precious time together.
To facilitate attendance, didactics are offered in person with a Zoom option for those off-site. We do not enforce a strict conference attendance policy, but we track attendance as one metric of residents’ engagement and to aid in developing individual learning plans.
Intern Core Series — During onboarding and weekly in first 6 months
Residents will gain practical skills in outpatient visit preparation, inter-visit care, in-basket management, medication reconciliation and inpatient handoffs. In addition, we cover common inpatient emergencies and challenging inter-visit outpatient issues. Finally, we review various professionalism topics and time management and self-care strategies.
Onboarding and intern core series also include simulation-based learning in procedural skills and other high-stakes, low-frequency scenarios.
Morning Report — Approximately 2-3 session weekly
Residents construct diagnostic frameworks toward common internal medicine problems, weigh therapeutic options and integrate disease-specific management plans based on a mix of known and unknown cases.
Board Review — Weekly
Residents review board questions and rapid-fire presentations to cover the highest-yield examination topics.
Subspecialty Series — Weekly
Residents learn contemporary approaches to diagnosis and treatment of internal medicine conditions from our expert colleagues in the ThedaCare community and among our affiliated partners.
Journal Club — Twice per month
Residents appraise the latest evidence through immersive learning strategies. In addition, residents analyze complex clinical decisions in a pro/con debate format centered on recent scientific studies.
Medicine Grand Rounds — Once per month
Residents gain insight into the latest advances in clinical internal medicine and its subspecialties with internal and external speakers.
Patient Safety and Care Improvement Conference — Once per month
In the vein of traditional morbidity and mortality conferences, this multidisciplinary conference evaluates cases of patient harm and near misses. Participants propose systemic improvements to care processes, communication and the work environment to mitigate future risk of harm.
E2PC2: Equity, Ethics, Professionalism and Cultural Competency — Once per month
Residents critically analyze complex ethical dilemmas and professional challenges in clinical practice by applying principles of ethics, equity and cultural competency.
Typical Didactic Calendar over One Month

All internal medicine residents will also receive paid annual membership in the American College of Physicians (ACP) and a three-year subscription to the ACP’s Medical Knowledge Self-Assessment Program (MKSAP) board review program. These perks allow residents to develop a board study plan from the outset of their training and to enjoy other continuing education offered through the ACP.
Our Faculty

Paul Bergl, MD, FACP, Program Director
Medical School: University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health
Residency: University of Chicago
Fellowship(s): Critical Care Medicine, Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals
Professional Summary
Clinically, I practice critical care medicine and especially enjoy the nuances of managing circulatory shock and respiratory failure. I’ve spent over a decade immersed in clinical teaching and medical education, and I’ve garnered over a dozen major teaching awards from students, residents and fellows during that time. My scholarly pursuits have focused on diagnostic error, point-of-care echocardiography, and bedside teaching and rounding.
Personal Interests and Hobbies
Outside of work, I prioritize spending time with my wife, Kate, and our three children. Our family enjoys bicycling, hiking and sports of all seasons. My other hobbies include cooking and barbecuing, and I dabble in multiple musical instruments.
Why ThedaCare
Two simple reasons: the people and the culture.

Rachell Ayers, MD
Medical School: University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health
Residency: University of Wisconsin Hospitals and Clinics
Professional Summary
After completing my residency, I returned to the Fox Valley and have been serving as a hospitalist at ThedaCare regional hospitals in Appleton and Neenah since 2020. I’m deeply committed to patient-centered care, emphasizing education, transparency, and meaningful discussions around quality of life and goals of care. As a front-line provider, I prioritize compassionate communication with patients and their families throughout hospitalization.I take great pride in working with residents and medical students on the teaching service, sharing both clinical knowledge and a passion for diagnostic medicine. I’m also actively involved in process and quality improvement initiatives at both local and systemwide levels. My work focuses on enhancing patient care, improving workflow efficiency, optimizing Epic use and strengthening transitions of care. I strongly believe in fostering provider engagement through participation in committees, interdisciplinary education and collaborative quality improvement efforts.
Personal Interests and Hobbies
During my off-weeks, I enjoy spending time outdoors with my husband and two children, and exploring Wisconsin’s state parks through camping, hiking, canoeing and bird watching. Gardening and landscaping serve as personal outlets for relaxation and reflection, especially after busy summer shifts. Each year, my family looks forward to a vacation cruise —remarkably, still without a case of norovirus!Why ThedaCare
In my experience, ThedaCare stands out for its commitment to innovation, high-quality care and population health. The organization embraces advancements in technology and artificial intelligence while consistently achieving top-decile performance metrics. ThedaCare also demonstrates a strong investment in developing the next generation of physicians to serve our increasingly complex rural and regional patient populations.
Deborah Ihde, MD
Medical School: Sanford School of Medicine at University of South Dakota
Residency: Gundersen Lutheran Hospital
Professional Summary
I’ve been practicing outpatient internal medicine at ThedaCare since 2007 and have served as our group’s medical director since 2009. Prior to that, I practiced a combination of inpatient and outpatient, which really rooted my experience. As an educator, I’ve previously served as an internal medicine residency associate program director and clerkship director for both internal medicine and primary care rotations for medical students.
I love understanding pathophysiology and being able to bring that to life for patients, medical students and residents. My special interest is in endocrinology. I especially enjoy the complexity of internal medicine patients.
I’m proud of the outstanding quality of care we’ve been able to achieve in ThedaCare internal medicine, despite the complexity of our patients.
Personal Interests and Hobbies
My husband, Neil, and I have two adult children whom we love to visit. We enjoy movies, theater, hiking and snorkeling. I’m also passionate about travel and am working on setting foot on all the continents.
Why ThedaCare
ThedaCare has a reputation and tradition of leading in the areas of quality and process improvement. Neenah, Appleton and the greater Fox Valley area have so much to offer thoughtful professionals as they pursue training.

Corinne Klein, MD
Medical school: Ross University School of Medicine
Residency: Drexel Hahnemann University Hospital
Fellowship: Oregon Health and Sciences University
I entered medical school to specialize in the unique field where human behavior, the environment, microbiology and medicine intersect – the field of infectious diseases. I am grateful for the opportunity to guide my patients thru their diagnostic and therapeutic challenges, in both inpatient and outpatient settings, working within a team of many – including, but not limited to – physicians, APCs, nurses, microbiologists, pharmacists, infection prevention control providers and public health experts to support our patients, our community.
Hobbies:
I enjoy the outdoors, hiking, gardening, reading and writing stand-up comedy material that I will most likely never be brave enough to perform. My husband and I are attempting to see each of the national parks, making it to two or three a year, which has been delightful.
Why Fox Valley?
The Fox Valley is a wonderful place to live – small enough to know your neighbors and big enough to support any interests, goals, you may have.

Steven Knaus, MD
Medical School: Medical College of Wisconsin
Residency: Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals
Professional Summary
I arrived in Neenah in 1993 to build a solo independent traditional practice, which included inpatient, outpatient, ICU and nursing home coverage.
After 20 years of independent practice, I formally joined the ThedaCare team with which I had become very aligned.
I maintained a traditional style of medicine until 2020, when I chose to focus on my clinic practice and bariatric surgery consultations.
For me, the most rewarding part of being an outpatient internist is the relationships I have forged over years of partnering with individuals during their healthcare journey. Patients in this community are friends, neighbors and colleagues. Those bonds motivate me every day to do my best to exceed expectations in meeting an individual’s healthcare needs.
Now, with the development of our internal medicine residency program, I have the opportunity to pass on what I have learned to the next generation of internists — and hopefully help foster their talent and passion for caregiving.
Personal Interests and Hobbies
Family is first! Thirty-three years of marriage (and counting) with three adult kids.
I prioritize any time together and especially appreciate when we can share holidays, travel, exercise, sporting events (Go Pack Go!) and music festivals.
Why ThedaCare
ThedaCare is a unique organization that reflects the community it serves. Both strive for continuous improvement, prioritize quality and are supportive of each other. That symbiosis allows ThedaCare to grow and prosper in a profound way.
The history of ThedaCare — along with the community support for its vision of the future —makes me optimistic about a successful legacy from which we will all benefit.

Chelsey McNabb-Pender, MD
Medical School: Michigan State University College of Human Medicine
Residency: Spectrum Health Internal Medicine & Pediatrics
Professional Summary
I joined ThedaCare following residency training in 2019. I initially worked as an internal medicine hospitalist for ThedaCare and pediatric hospitalist with Children’s Wisconsin. In 2022, I transitioned to my current role in outpatient internal medicine.
I truly value the relationships I build with patients over time in this setting. I enjoy the challenges of solving a diagnostic dilemma and managing chronic medical conditions. I take pride in communicating compassionately with my patients and their families and ensuring their goals stay at the center of their care. I also have a special interest in transitioning complex pediatric patients to adult medicine.
I’ve always felt that as physicians, we are all lifelong learners. Educating medical students and resident physicians allows me to not only share knowledge, but also to gain knowledge myself to better care for patients.
Personal Interests and Hobbies
I spend much of my spare time with my family. My husband and I have three children who keep us on our toes! We cherish time spent returning “home” to Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, enjoying the great outdoors.
Why ThedaCare
I was attracted to the Fox Valley since my husband and I have family in the area. It’s a wonderful place to raise a family. Joining ThedaCare was a clear choice because of the organization’s emphasis on patient-centered, high-quality care and the opportunity to work among great people.
Josh Morris, MD
Medical School: Indiana University School of Medicine
Residency: Medical College of Wisconsin
I grew up in Indiana but have been happy to call Wisconsin home since 2019. After residency, I spent four years on faculty at the Medical College of Wisconsin/Froedtert Hospital. I practice clinically as a hospitalist, and I have had a passion for the educational side of our work for as long as I can remember.
Hobbies: I enjoy cooking, baking, all things coffee (roasting and brewing!), running and exercising, cocktail crafting, photography, and a pinch of PC building and gaming.
Why ThedaCare?
ThedaCare’s Internal Medicine Residency Program immediately stood out to me because of the opportunities to be involved from the beginning and to help shape a program as it grows. I am especially excited to serve as core faculty and to continue teaching point-of-care ultrasound (POCUS) and bedside procedures. Both of these domains have become major professional interests of mine, and I was impressed by ThedaCare’s resources and infrastructure that will help us build strong, hands-on curricula for our residents.

Eric Winkel, DO
Medical School: Chicago College of Osteopathic Medicine
Residency: Hennepin Healthcare Internal Medicine Residency
Professional Summary
After completing my residency at Hennepin County Medical Center, I came to ThedaCare as a hospitalist and have been here since 2015. I have been our group’s educational liaison, working with the local family practice residency as well as the Medical College of Wisconsin-Green Bay students. During this time, I’ve won several teaching awards from both organizations. Aside from the fun I have working with students and residents, I take great interest in the diagnostic reasoning process and keeping up with medical science.
Personal Interests
My wife and I stay quite busy following along with the busy lives of our three children. When we have time to ourselves, you’ll find us at a trivia night or meeting with our friends at book club.
Why ThedaCare
ThedaCare is a devoted group of nurses, therapists, support staff, secretarial staff, doctors and many others. The incoming residents will join that team in serving our community. The whole ThedaCare team, whether in the clinic or hospital setting, is also ready and eager to foster the residents’ development.
